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Septik	1. Le 05/09/2010 à 02:41 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560850244&pageNo=4&sid=2000#77 Q u o t e: Enhancement is a spec designed around combining melee weapons strikes with spells. They also have totems and weapon enchants. Almost all of the talents in the tree support that direction. If half of your talents were trying to turn you into a healer and half of them were trying to turn you into a tank or something, then I'd understand the "no consistent direction" feedback. But that's not what the tree does at all. Stormstrike boosts weapon and spell damage. That is the tree in a nutshell. Other talents boost melee damage or spell damage or both. There are a few survival-oriented talents that should have even more use in PvE in the Cataclysm environment, but are still optional. What is subtlety designed around? It is based around stealth and openers and sneaky attacks like backstab right? Yet I look at the tree and I see: Tons of talents that increase bleed damage, a mastery that increases damaging finishers (redundant since Assassination increases envenom), only one usable bleed, an ability that generates more combo points than any other talent in any other tree and a talent that increases bleed damage... Not trying to incite anger here but I figured this is the opportune to get this answered. I can definitely see the direction of Enhancement. I can see the direction of most trees actually. But I honestly think the question "What is the purpose of Subtlety?" is very necessary to be asked here. I'm also a tad perturbed by the fact that once again the role of poisons for Assassination is just passive armor ignoring damage with no involvement by the player. Shiv would have done wonders there. But I think the question almost ALL rogues want the answer to is why , since the Sub tree is destined to be a bleed tree, does shadow dance not just allow us to use 1 move that requires stealth every 18-20 seconds so as to supply the tree with a second bleed? None of the pieces are adding up. =( This may or may not get any answer but I would like to hear what the other rogues have to say.
Ghostcrawler	2. Le 05/09/2010 à 04:47 You failed to quote the rest of that post I made, where I implored players to stop making "lacks theme, direction" threads. :)

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1. Le 05/09/2010 à 02:41

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560850244&pageNo=4&sid=2000#77

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Enhancement is a spec designed around combining melee weapons strikes with spells. They also have totems and weapon enchants. Almost all of the talents in the tree support that direction. If half of your talents were trying to turn you into a healer and half of them were trying to turn you into a tank or something, then I'd understand the "no consistent direction" feedback. But that's not what the tree does at all. Stormstrike boosts weapon and spell damage. That is the tree in a nutshell. Other talents boost melee damage or spell damage or both. There are a few survival-oriented talents that should have even more use in PvE in the Cataclysm environment, but are still optional.

What is subtlety designed around? It is based around stealth and openers and sneaky attacks like backstab right?

Yet I look at the tree and I see:

Tons of talents that increase bleed damage, a mastery that increases damaging finishers (redundant since Assassination increases envenom), only one usable bleed, an ability that generates more combo points than any other talent in any other tree and a talent that increases bleed damage...

Not trying to incite anger here but I figured this is the opportune to get this answered. I can definitely see the direction of Enhancement. I can see the direction of most trees actually. But I honestly think the question "What is the purpose of Subtlety?" is very necessary to be asked here.

I'm also a tad perturbed by the fact that once again the role of poisons for Assassination is just passive armor ignoring damage with no involvement by the player. Shiv would have done wonders there. But I think the question almost ALL rogues want the answer to is why , since the Sub tree is destined to be a bleed tree, does shadow dance not just allow us to use 1 move that requires stealth every 18-20 seconds so as to supply the tree with a second bleed?

None of the pieces are adding up. =( This may or may not get any answer but I would like to hear what the other rogues have to say.

Ghostcrawler

2. Le 05/09/2010 à 04:47

You failed to quote the rest of that post I made, where I implored players to stop making "lacks theme, direction" threads. :)

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